Georgia How would you do a room escape analog? Morgan that translates pretty smoothly to an extremely rules-light tabletop RPG type thing i've run one all puzzles, no monsters or anything, so no need for stats or dice or rulebooks it went surprisingly well, actually most of my RPG games do not Georgia Could you make it work without a gamemaster? Morgan yes but it's not something that should be done lightly Georgia Paragraph format? Morgan no, that's rubbish Georgia How? Morgan you have to essentially pretend there is a game master, and get judgement from them via some system of divination well my left leg is telling me... ff.. something "be quick to clarify that", but i don't know how i'm supposed to clarify it this is the problem Gregoria Then you couldn't make it work without a gamemaster. Morgan it depends on your definition of "work" Georgia To make something work without a gamemaster, you have to be able to clarify what people are supposed to do without you there. Morgan the game isn't fair, and it has a lot of much worse problems on top of that but it is playable in fact, i can't stop playing i can't claim to have invented the game, either, i don't think anyone can though certainly some have left their mark who is the gamemaster of MAZE? christopher manson is the author, but that's not at all the same it NEEDS a gamemaster, but it doesn't HAVE one so one evolves in your head unconsciously Georgia It has enough. If it had more, it wouldn't be so appealing. Morgan it has enough to be playable, to "work", as you put it but not enough to be fair Georgia Work has to conversate, not dictate. Morgan it is a choose your own adventure book with one ending room six has a tunnel over which is hanging a sign with a picture of an eye does that lead to the room of eyes? or to room one, which is "i" in roman numerals? in a computer game, you click it and find out in an RPG, you say "i go down the tunnel with the eye sign" and the game master tells you the outcome in MAZE, you speculate uncomfortably about it in the comments on the Room 6 page of intotheabyss.net and maybe white raven gives you a puzzle point and maybe that means something and you NEVER KNOW Gregoria That's part of the appeal, maybe, and the frustration. That's also why Maze fellows keep going to the Abyss. They want that check, that authority. Penny Georgia, are you even aware that you just did a total 180 regarding the viability of pretending there's a gamemaster? White Raven is David Brekke of Valley City, North Dakota. YOU THINK MY PUZZLE SOLVING IS CONFINED BY SOME BOOK, SOME HOUSE OF LEAVES? Morgan and in your head, the wheels are turning and the mice are running, still looking for a way out